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	<title>Comments on: Should homes be worth twice what they were in 1996?</title>
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	<description>Everything You Need to Know About the San Francisco Bay Area Housing Market</description>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-4027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 18:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree that those towns all have different data pre-2000. The porelbm is that it doesn&#039;t really exist   at least it&#039;s not published that far back by Case-Shiller. For what it&#039;s worth, San Francisco prices peaked just above 200 on their metric, or double the Jan 1, 2000 price   this is only slightly higher than the country as a whole, illustrated by the 20-city composite and also visible in the smaller, classic graphic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that those towns all have different data pre-2000. The porelbm is that it doesn&#8217;t really exist   at least it&#8217;s not published that far back by Case-Shiller. For what it&#8217;s worth, San Francisco prices peaked just above 200 on their metric, or double the Jan 1, 2000 price   this is only slightly higher than the country as a whole, illustrated by the 20-city composite and also visible in the smaller, classic graphic.</p>
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		<title>By: Five Reasons Why Home Prices Aren&#8217;t Bottoming Yet &#124; Bay Area Real Estate Trends</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-3029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Five Reasons Why Home Prices Aren&#8217;t Bottoming Yet &#124; Bay Area Real Estate Trends]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] So, adjusted for inflation, home prices are already roughly-back to where they were before the bubble began. But is it really fair to adjust home prices for inflation? Should home prices really be double what they were in the mid-90&#8242;s? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, adjusted for inflation, home prices are already roughly-back to where they were before the bubble began. But is it really fair to adjust home prices for inflation? Should home prices really be double what they were in the mid-90&#8242;s? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quick History Lesson: 308 Sutton Circle, Danville &#171; Real Estate &#171; Real Estate Sacramento</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-1859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quick History Lesson: 308 Sutton Circle, Danville &#171; Real Estate &#171; Real Estate Sacramento]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 23:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Is there any real reason why homes today should be worth so much more than the 1990&#8242;s? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is there any real reason why homes today should be worth so much more than the 1990&#8242;s? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Fielding</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Fielding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 21:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s also true that homes have been much more updated in the last 10 years than from 1986-1996. There was much more home equity extraction and remodeling.
The average home today is both a bit bigger and a bit fancier than in 1996.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also true that homes have been much more updated in the last 10 years than from 1986-1996. There was much more home equity extraction and remodeling.<br />
The average home today is both a bit bigger and a bit fancier than in 1996.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Barker</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Barker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 19:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points. One thing that could account for higher real values, is that on average homes are bigger than they were in 1996. If people do want bigger homes now than in the past, which they do, then that accounts for some increase in prices, but no where new twice the value....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. One thing that could account for higher real values, is that on average homes are bigger than they were in 1996. If people do want bigger homes now than in the past, which they do, then that accounts for some increase in prices, but no where new twice the value&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 16:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yo Bubba,

You are right on - I plotted this chart about 6 years ago, and drew some extrapolation lines down.   Back when everyone was jumping into the ponzi scheme, I asked:  Why are mortgages so much more than rents - are you crasy?

Now it seems as an engineer that since 1996, we have outsourced more, graduated fewer scientists, and basically terminated the middle class.  This is root cause of the real valuation that I feel must come.  Obama cannot tax, stimulate, spend,  outsource, expand the money supply, inflate our way to properity.

Rather the real-estate bubble initiated by B. Clinton using the CRA was a poor replacement at gaming the system.  Instead to build the fundamentals we need to focus more on Science, Technology, Manufacturing, R&amp;D, Energy..........

Without real middle class jobs, this may not end well...........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Bubba,</p>
<p>You are right on &#8211; I plotted this chart about 6 years ago, and drew some extrapolation lines down.   Back when everyone was jumping into the ponzi scheme, I asked:  Why are mortgages so much more than rents &#8211; are you crasy?</p>
<p>Now it seems as an engineer that since 1996, we have outsourced more, graduated fewer scientists, and basically terminated the middle class.  This is root cause of the real valuation that I feel must come.  Obama cannot tax, stimulate, spend,  outsource, expand the money supply, inflate our way to properity.</p>
<p>Rather the real-estate bubble initiated by B. Clinton using the CRA was a poor replacement at gaming the system.  Instead to build the fundamentals we need to focus more on Science, Technology, Manufacturing, R&amp;D, Energy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Without real middle class jobs, this may not end well&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Alcatraz80</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcatraz80]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 12:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Seeingeyedog: You&#039;re right on the mark. One quick and dirty way to determine value is to determine what buyers are willing to pay / can afford to pay for homes.

To use myself as an example (And to counter Thibs absurd argument in regards to young people being so ignorant), I make 100k per year, with roughly 2250$ a month in expenses. A &quot;safe&quot; price range for me would be between 90 - 100k. You can&#039;t even find a decent home for 100k anymore. Salaries remain stagnant while all other prices across the board continue to rise, and home owners wishfully assume their home is this imaginary asset that continues to increase in value. I have to ask, why? Past precedence doesn&#039;t necessarily dictate future truth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Seeingeyedog: You&#8217;re right on the mark. One quick and dirty way to determine value is to determine what buyers are willing to pay / can afford to pay for homes.</p>
<p>To use myself as an example (And to counter Thibs absurd argument in regards to young people being so ignorant), I make 100k per year, with roughly 2250$ a month in expenses. A &#8220;safe&#8221; price range for me would be between 90 &#8211; 100k. You can&#8217;t even find a decent home for 100k anymore. Salaries remain stagnant while all other prices across the board continue to rise, and home owners wishfully assume their home is this imaginary asset that continues to increase in value. I have to ask, why? Past precedence doesn&#8217;t necessarily dictate future truth.</p>
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		<title>By: California Realist</title>
		<link>http://bayarearealestatetrends.com/2010/03/30/should-homes-be-twice-1996/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California Realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 03:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree with you more.  I don&#039;t know why people make it so complicated.  Just look around you in California.  The house of cards is on its way down sooner rather than later......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more.  I don&#8217;t know why people make it so complicated.  Just look around you in California.  The house of cards is on its way down sooner rather than later&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura U.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura U.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that house prices will drop back to historical levels...and then some. This housing boom is the largest in history, (maxed-out, loose credit + superlow interest rates) just as crazy as the tulip bulb mania. What will make this time worse, is there are no real jobs here in the bayarea compared to previous RE cycles. We have no factories, and with everything costing more than in past decades, including healthcare, I believe house prices will fall all the way back to the 1980&#039;s levels just because of the overbuilt factor on top of all of the above reasons. I think prices won&#039;t bottom out until 2014-2016; afterall, it took 10 years for this bubble to burst, and will probably take the same time to competely deflate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that house prices will drop back to historical levels&#8230;and then some. This housing boom is the largest in history, (maxed-out, loose credit + superlow interest rates) just as crazy as the tulip bulb mania. What will make this time worse, is there are no real jobs here in the bayarea compared to previous RE cycles. We have no factories, and with everything costing more than in past decades, including healthcare, I believe house prices will fall all the way back to the 1980&#8242;s levels just because of the overbuilt factor on top of all of the above reasons. I think prices won&#8217;t bottom out until 2014-2016; afterall, it took 10 years for this bubble to burst, and will probably take the same time to competely deflate.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, you must be a broker or realtor ! Get ready to eat some crow . Prices will continue to fall and could easily reach 1996 prices ! Only a IDIOT says otherwise !I think it&#039;s time for you to take off your rose tinted glasses fool ! I bet you&#039;re just upset because you paid 5 times what your house is worth ! Ive been developing real estate , building and investing for years ! We are far from the bottom and could see an additional 20-40% drop in prices before a bottom is reached ! Maybe more! YOU ARE THE IDIOT FOOL !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, you must be a broker or realtor ! Get ready to eat some crow . Prices will continue to fall and could easily reach 1996 prices ! Only a IDIOT says otherwise !I think it&#8217;s time for you to take off your rose tinted glasses fool ! I bet you&#8217;re just upset because you paid 5 times what your house is worth ! Ive been developing real estate , building and investing for years ! We are far from the bottom and could see an additional 20-40% drop in prices before a bottom is reached ! Maybe more! YOU ARE THE IDIOT FOOL !</p>
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